I have a crack on the chain plates, about 1/2 the width of both, on starboard and port side. The boat is a 1984 J35. I am located at Bowley’s Marina and currently in the water.
I am pretty sure both chain plates need to be replaced. My question is will you do this work and in what time frames. I am not sailing now because of this so I am hoping for a short lead time. I guess I could motor to Annapolis but even that could be a problem with these plates.
We would certainly be glad to help. Timing wise, first a few questions: Is the mast up or down? Would you be bringing them to us? Would we install and remove or just make plates?
Thanks and let us know.
Mast is up. I am not sure it is safe to bring it to you. Although I am willing if it means quicker turn around.
I would want you to remove and replace the chain plates on both sides.
Yeah it would be a tough call regarding the safety standpoint. Which two chainplates are they? I forget, do the 35’s have only one plate for all three stays on each side?
Yes, just one plate for three shrouds.
Let me know timing as soon as you can. Thanks
Gotcha. Okay…We have next week booked up pretty solid, but the week after we may be able to squeeze you in. You will need to take the mast down for this. You can do this at Maryland Marina..I’m pretty sure. Maybe give them a ring tomorrow and see what they say about that and the cost involved. This will keep you from a trip down the bay and eliminate safety concerns.
Then we can schedule a trip up there to take the plates out. This may take around 4 hours plus a service call to Baltimore of around $100. We charge $100 pr hour and bill to the 100th of the hour.
We bring the plates back for duplication, I estimate anywhere from $350-$450 per plate for something of that complexity.
Then we can come back up for an install 4 (maybe 6) hours. Again with the service call.
The plates will likely take about a week to make. So lets say three weeks, at the earliest the end of the month is realistic.
The office should reply to the work request tomorrow, but give us a call to expedite this and mention our discussion and we can get you an estimate to set up a deposit and schedule a date and time for all of this.
Cheers and thanks for choosing…
Quick newbie question. Can you pull mast with boat in water?
Absolutely. It ultimately depends on the facility and what heavy equipment needs to be used to unstep the mast. I prefer not having to go up and down the ladder. Where is the boat and what size is it?
Bowley’s Marina- Middle River
Boat is J35- 35 feet
I don’t know if last reply went through. It is a J35- 35 feet. Located at Bowley’s Marina, Middle River
Boat is J35 – 35 feet located at Bowleys Marina , Middle River
Hi I need a rod rigging stem terminal for a 1982 Bruce Farr 48, a ‘one off’ build by Pacific Seacraft. it was the first Farr build in the USA in fact. I am in Tonga now and expect to find a swaging machine in Fiji. Can you guys send something up there? And also please detailed instructions for the swaging. Its probably the first time they will do rod rigging. Is it similar, the same, totally different from wire? The size i am after is 3/8, the material is nitro 50 I assume since it doesn’t look the same as sss 316. its grayer. the lower port shroud snapped just under the swage. does the rod need a rod head and a swage or just one of those. I don’t quite understand how it was put to gether originally. I hope you can help, at the moment we are using a rope and tackle! yours,
Frans, S/y Sangvind.
Rod rigging requires a cold heading machine. A 3/8″ diameter rod equivalent would be -22 Nitronic 50 Rod. This is completely different from 1×19 wire swaging.
The fittings on both ends of any rod stay capture the head that is formed by the cold heading machine. Depending on the length lost, you may be able to re-head the rod and make up for it in the turnbuckle. What do the fittings at either end look like? Please send any pictures that you may have to email@example.com
Sorry, but I am currently off the coast of Peru and cannot call. Please let me know if you can find a 900SL somewhere (just the bottom section as I’ll re-use the 915LD extrusions). If it is used, it’s OK with me.
Got it. Okay, I will ask HOOD and get back to you.
Okay, unfortunately after some research, those are no longer in stock anywhere. Out of production. Your only option I am afraid is to purchase a whole new unit.
Hi, I have a Hood 915LD on my boat and would like to replace it with a 900SL. Do you have the 900SL drum section available? Thank you. Dominique
Hi Dominique, I am fairly certain they’ve stopped making this unit. Please give us a call 443-847-1004 and we’ll chat with our friends Hood and see what options we can come up with for you.
Hi, I have a Hunter 376 and bought one of those yacht rods. I need to find a fitting that will slide in to the slot in the boom (z spar) as the one that comes with it does not fit….any suggestions would be great, thanks!
So it may be that you have to modify a Selden boom lug for Rodkicker to fit. Here is the link…http://www.seldenmast.com/index.php?id=4759. Scroll down and see if one comes close, especially in pin size. OR try …. http://rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Boom_bails.php#Track (scroll down) Feel free to <a href=”https://theriggingco.com/contacts/”>call</a> to discuss we can order one for you. I have had to dress one of these down with a grinder to slide into the boom’s existing track on an Isomat mast recently. Maybe you modify the Forespar one to fit in the groove. OR buy build a custom one. If you give me groove dimensions and pins size we can make you one as well.
Hope that is of some help.
I have 2 25ft Catalinas that need some mast work.
The capri 25 needs a steaming light installed on the mast…it never had one…..
The catalina 250 needs the deck fitting replaced but there is not enough extra cable to make this happen so I am thinking we need the mast rewired and eliminate the deck fittin altogether.
We are a ways away from Annapolis.
My tip is to lower the mast (s) and then do any wiring and light install necessary. These boat’s are likely to tender to go aloft on anyways and unstep really quickly. Email us for more info for lights, tips or tricks.
We’d be glad to help.
Thank you for responding to my inquiry. My initial thoughts are I would like to replace the running rigging for my main halyard, jib halyard, and all sheets. If adjusting the winches, toggles and pulleys is something you do too, that would be great. My goal is to just have better functioning rigging. I am unsure of my choices for line types and costs. Please let me know if there is a good time to talk with you about my needs.
Will do Jonathan. I received your message and will be giving you a call sometime tomorrow to discuss.
I am located in Colonial Beach, VA and am looking for someone to replace the running rigging on my 1987, Ericson 28. Is something that you provide or do you know of anyone near Colonial Beach, Va?
We certainly do and would be glad to help. Do you have list of needed lines, i.e. Genoa, Spinnaker halyard, Main, etc…Please also just let us know if the lines are led aft or terminate at the mast. You can use our <a href=”https://theriggingco.com/fill-out-our-online-work-request-form/”>Online Work Request</a> Form when you are ready for pricing. Just provide us with the aforementioned info. We can also install them for you or you can brave ti yourself. Read our blog on <a href=”https://theriggingco.com/2016/01/31/reeving-halyards/”>Reeving Lines</a>.
I am currently looking at a 1977 C&C 33 Mark I, It has as far as I know the original rod rigging. The boat has not been used much, however I am sure I will need to have the ends replaced at the very minimum. Please can you help me. I live near Kansas City Mo. As far as I know there are no rod riggers near me. Would I need to remove the rods coil them up and ship them to you for service. or is it something someone locally can do. and what kind of cost am I looking at. The boat is reasonably priced however I still need to know (BALL PARK RANGE) what cost I would be looking at and any other suggestions. I’m not a racer only the occasional holiday regatta. This is the only data I have on the boat. http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1702
Please, please, please can you help me?
Thanks for choosing TRC for your rigging questions. You can certainly send us your stuff anytime you are ready. We just sent some rod rigging to Puerto Rico actually that is very similar to the rigging that you have. For the sake of rough numbers you can expect around $4k for rod service, which will replace some rods, replace those recalled Navtangs and cover some of the shipping. This amount can vary $1k in either direction depending on what we determine that you need. If you want to add a new headsail furler, add roughly another $2k. Having said all of that, once we receive all of your items we will carefully spec and ask any questions that we might have to provide you with a detailed estimated for the work. You would then approve the proposal by signing, dating and providing a 50% deposit of the estimated amount.
Please fill out our Work Request Form when you are ready to ship it to us, submit it, as well as print a copy to go into the box with rigging.
Laslty, before unstepping mark all turnbuckles at the threads, where they intersect the turnbuckle body. Then, label and remove the stays as follows: port upper, starboard intermediate, port fowrard lower (or PFL abbrevetaions are recommended), backstay (bax), etc….
The headstay furler will be the challenging part. You will need to disassemble the unit completely AND it cannot be a early model Harken furler, otherwise you will never get the terminated stay through it. If this is the case you will need to provide us a pin to pin measurement along with pics of where you measured from – to, then either buy a new furler (it may be time anyways), OR we will need to make the furler out of wire and you will need to finish one end to length on site via some of our instructions.
I hope that answers some of you questions and is not too long winded.
Cheers and We Look Forward to Working with You,
Hi my name is Manning Harvey. I sail a 1979 Albin Vega. I was reading on a Albin Vega Blog, that in the past that you had fabricated a new “Forestay Chainplate” for a blog member’s Vega. The original Forestay Chainplate on the Vega has been determined as possibly a weak spot on the boat rigging. If you have a template to fabricate a stronger, better chainplate I may be interested in buying two. As I am in the process of restoring another Vega also. If yours has a anchor roller that would even make me more interested.
I took a look and we do not have any templates on file for the Vega’s stem fitting. We can certainly create something for you though along with anchor roller option. We would need you to <a href=”https://theriggingco.com/locate-us/”>send us</a> the old stem fitting, as well as fill out our<a href=”https://theriggingco.com/fill-out-our-online-work-request-form/”> work request form</a> and we can go from there. We will put together a design that is both stronger than the original and meets you anchor roller requirements before we proceed. Thanks and let us know.
I have a Cal 33-2 with the original Isomat rig. When I bought the boat the rig was out, all of the shrouds seemed to be in serviceable condition. Mast had a little S shape from the trucking (this was worked out after a quick tuning when it went in). One thing I noticed was the starboard upper spreader has a tendency to sit at a higher angle than the port and the lower sits at a lower angle. (We are talking 1/2-3/4″ from where the port side spreaders like to sit on the shroud. All spreader bases looked symmetrical and did not appear to be stressed or fatigued, and all components went together very easily. I checked to see that they sat symmetrically before the rig went up as well. At this point, even if I manually adjust the spreaders to be equal with the port side, they will revert back after the first good beat and tack to weather. I understand that it’s very important to keep the spreaders where they should be to support the rig, but it also drives me crazy seeing it not perfectly symmetrical on the mooring. Any ideas? All shrouds are wire and run through the spreader tips, and there is a cap that keeps them captured. Thanks for any advice!
You are totally right and it would drive me nuts too. It sounds like you already did what I would have suggested. It is likely (if the spreaders aren’t bent) that the spreader bases, be it through bar or “spigot style”, may have become bent. Perhaps whatever bent the mast caused this as well. There is a small chance that they were never right to begin with. Feel free to send pics, from afar and up-close perhaps I can be of more help this way.
I need new stays for a ComPac 14 Picnic cat. Do you manufacture?
Certainly. Just mark the turnbuckles at the threads if you haven’t taken the mast down. Then send us the old rigging, labeled, along with your info. If you already took the mast down…Just send us the rigging and we’ll make do.
Please email Aaron@TheRiggingCo.com for more information.
Hello. Thanks for your blog.
I bought a sailboat(cd30), that’s in a lake 600 miles from me. I need to bring her down home and I’m stressing over how I can do that.
S/V Of Course
Well, I’m not sure how to best answer this. I would start with a trailer that fits the boat. Then unstep the mast. Then load it all up an tow it out of there. I am not sure how that lake operates. How do they get boat in and out of the water? Worst case scenario you need to hire the services of a crane to help with this.
I have a J/42 and would like to have a little sprit built that can sit in the now empty port anchor roller slot. I’d like it to be easy enough to mount and dismount that either could be accomplished in under 5 minutes.
Is this something you can do? Will you be at the boat show?
Yes we can and yes, we'll be at tent O-13. Feel free to stop by and discuss. Talk to our expert staff on the options available for your J 42. Thanks!
Sweet. See you there.
Where can i find an e-mail adress to send a job application?
Hello and thank you for the inquiry. we do not have an application, but are taking resumes. Please email us your résumé.
About how long would it take you guys to make up forestay and backstay for a Pearson 33?
If you brought it to us, about an hour. If a furler for the forestay is involved about 4 hours.
I have a 26 ft mcgr. The mast was bent will haul her on the trailer to the lake. Is this some thing that can be fixed in do I need to purchase a new one
Can you send us some pictures?
Do I need to take all tension off all before tuning… Or Cani just measure to from deck make sue they are equal
You can do the latter with perhaps a tweak here and there. If you get frustrated or are just unsure, go totally slack, and start from scratch.
Trying to tune/ check rod rigging Beneteau32s5 before race . Going to boat this afternoon
Help/ Suggestions for a novice at tuning
Hi and thanks for commenting.
Just follow the guidelines in the write up. The over all goal is that the mast needs to be straight and in-column when looking at it from side to side.
Fore and aft, the mast should show a very slight lean aft. Depending on whether or not the spreaders are in-line or aft swept; you should also see some slight bend if there is any aft sweep to the spreaders just from the tension of the uppers.
A Rod stay tends to run a bit tighter than wire, so keep that in mind.
For racing, ideally once the static tune at the dock (the part we just talked about) is done, go out and sail tune. Do this by going hard on the wind and checking to see if the leeward shrouds are just starting to dance, this is ideal. If they are swaying about they are too loose for the current conditions. If the leeward shrouds are tight, they may be a touch to tight. Tension and loosen as needed; count what you did and to what shroud, then tack and do the same to the other side.
ALWAYS secure the turnbuckles when you are finished adjusting them.
Hope that helps.
Hi, I have an Amel Mango Ketch 1987 and I need to replace all the Missen rigging.Could you help me? and send it to Toronto,ON?
Hello, we do this type of job all of the time and certainly can help. If you haven’t unstepped the mast already please mark the threads of the turnbuckles where they intersect the turnbuckle body. Then label (i.e. uppers, lowers, runners etc…)and ship them to us. Once we receive everything we will provide you with an accurate quote for replacement. Alternatively (and this will require some specific instructions) you can provide us with stay dimensions, i.e. wire diameters, pin diameters and required end fittings. The first method is preferred. Please let us know how we can be of service.
Thank you for the stress relief and I will let you know how it turns out .
Hi , I have a 62′ aluminum mast that has been taken off the boat , all the halyards have been taken out the and no tag lines were pulled in , is there any way to get the halyard back in the right place . the boat is a 1981 45′ Formosa single mast cutter rigged .
Stressed out :
Thanks for the question Bill. No need to stress out we do this all the time. You need to go to your local hardware store or Home Depot and purchase a steel fish tape. They are probably near the electrical goods. You will also need a relative amount of messenger/leader line no bigger than 5/32″ or so.
Take your time with each halyard to ensure that it is lead cleanly. Roll the mast in such a fashion that you use gravity to help you fish-in a messenger cleanly. This can take a while for a beginner, but you will get through it. Run one line at a time and tie off the associated messenger tight before you run the next one. It is advisable to do this for all of the places for halyards, even if you do not have an actual line to run into that position….this way you at least have a messenger. After you are all done, you can begin attaching the messenger to the line and pull them in, also one at a time. Any twists will show themselves as you’re running the line. If you do get a twist, it will typically show itself at the exit slot. Now here is where you need to really think about which way to untwist it….otherwise you’ll have a double twist!
Just take your time and remember it may take a while, especially if it is your first time.
Hope that helps, let us know how it went.
looking to buy a sailboat,, problem 1,,,need to tabernacle it…what kind of boat can you or cant you guys tabernacle.
You will need to find something smaller. Most boats under 25′ will have the ability to lower the mast via tabernacle. You should check with the various boat brokers on this they will be of more help. Let me know if you need some sources. Thanks for the comment……
Hi guys what do you have available in the way of rigid vangs for my 35ft Bowman Starlight RM 34.1
We provide various rigid vang systems. Hall Quickvangs for something a bit more sportier. Forespar Yacht Rod is a good robust option (this may be my first recommendation for your boat). Gerhauer vang or the Selden Rodkicker are some less expensive options but still a get the job done. Let me know which one interests you and I can forward you some pricing.
Hi, I have an original hood stowboom system and need to replace the flex track. I am struggling to find a supplier (am based in the Uk). I understand the Leisure Furl by Forespar uses the same profile. Are you able to advise and or supply spares? Thank you in advance, Heinz
We can supply Leisure Furl spares, no problem. However, I would give Hood a call to confirm this info first. They can be reached at U.S. tel 813-885-2182. If all of this is true, then your best bet would be to contact Alan Massey at Forespar California, U.S. tel 208-642-1312. Leisure Furler has changed their track over the years which is why I would double check and although it is not super expensive part, it would still all be for nothing if it didn’t work is all! If you contact us with the exact L.F. part number that you want, via our online work request form, I will gladly order and drop ship you any such track. Thanks for the question. Let me know if this helps.
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